Dna evidence against book of mormon incredible new evidence

Non mormon archaeologists speak on book of mormon evidence. There is generally no direct support amongst mainstream historians and archaeologists for the. Sep 16, 2015 so, if you say that somehow there is evidence against my belief in the book of mormon historicity, for example, because science has not proven that there were horses yet, my response is to say, yes, science has not proven there were horses yet, but that is what science said about it. Rodney meldrum presents himself as a scientific authority who has worked on a universitylevel science textbook. Since the publication of the book of mormon in 1830, mormon archaeologists have attempted. Many current believers, including the lds church, have no strong position on. Now the same dna evidence used in courts of law can credibly speak to the validity of the book of mormon, which serves as the foundation of the mormon. Oct 05, 2009 what the dna evidence says most dna studies are unable to find markers that link modernday american indians to ancient semitic peoples, suggesting that the lehites were not the principal ancestors of modern native americans. In this article, we will provide some background on this issue focusing on the scientific issues, followed by a point by point response to various statements made in the essay about the book of mormon. The list of archeological and historical claims of the book of mormon compared to nonapologetic evidence. The book of mormon tells the story of a family from ancient jerusalem that crossed the ocean and colonized somewhere in the western. Although the primary purpose of the book of mormon is more spiritual than. However, this attack ignores several key points, among which is the fact that the book of mormon states that lehi and his family are clearly not jews. Jun 22, 2016 all opinions, speakers and presenters represent and express their own individual opinions, and not necessarily the opinions of firm foundation, book of mormon evidence, or its employees, and no information or opinions represent the church of jesus christ of latterday saints.

Mormon church says it was an error in their come follow me manual that there was a curse of dark skin. The material below covers the geography of the book of mormon in north america. The book of mormon states that there were three transoceanic migrations by ship, lehis family, the mulekites and the jaredites. But there is always room for any new evidence for and against and why. The dna arguments, like many others against the book of mormon, can be extremely. New scientific support for the truthfulness of the book of mormon. But being the strongest evidence so far against the book of mormon is a relative thing. The criticism of the mormon church is the following. The owner and employees of this site are members of the lds church and in good standing. This is some heavy duty gaslighting and throwing the bom under the bus. Ces letter links to a poorly written wikipedia article as the basis of their sweeping claim.

Answering the book of mormon dna apologetics subject. Rod is a friend of mine and a member of my hp group, but he has oversimplified this dna matter, aside from falsely stating 1 that the maya are the center of interest of those who consider the book of mormon to be a mesoamerican codex, and 2 that they focus on the maya because they think that joseph smith did so as well. The timing of initial entry into the americas is uncertain. During my trip behind the zion curtain i became more familiar with the dominant lines of defense in response to the dna evidence challenging the book of mormon.

Another testament of jesus christ, is true, not false. This new evidence, in contrast to the first, appears to provide support for the book of mormon as well as and an interesting geographic paradigm for the events therein. Does dna evidence prove the book of mormon is false. Dna evidence and the book of mormon conclusive proof. A recently published book claims that dna evidence proves that the book of mormon, a book of scripture used in conjunction with the bible by the mormon church, is incorrect and points to an asiatic origin versus a middle eastern origin for the inhabitants of the american continents about 100 genetic studies have been done on about 75 groups out of 500 known native. In this episode, three geneticists respond to the lds essay book of mormon and dna studies, and to apologist michael ashs article entitled the dna challenge to the book of mormon that fizzled. The evidence assembled to date suggests that the majority of native americans carry largely asian dna.

Joseph smith claimed that the book of mormon is the. I couldnt possibly cover every book of mormon correlation in one sitting. Archaeology itself can be divided and subdivided into numerous disciplines. Three geneticists respond to the lds essay on dna and the. Simon southerton submitted to us as to why he left mormonism due to dna evidence is at whyleft125. Watch book of mormon centrals new video on one of the best examples of archaeological evidence we have for the book of mormon. Dna evidence has forced another edit to the book of mormon. The conclusion of dna evidence brings us the fascinating testimony of an exmormon. No matter which one smells best, relatively speaking, you still need to approach this beast with caution. Does dna evidence prove the book of mormon to be false. They flatly reject the hemispheric geography, the view accepted by most mormons and all the prophets. Correlation and verification through dna, prophetic, scriptural, historical, climatological, archaeological, social, and cultural evidence. That means that it has no evidence to prove there were horses. Mormonism disproved by new dna evidence oxford bible church.

Gondwana provides dna testing services to tree breeders to enable them to. The book of mormon is clear that it was a literal curse on their skin. Book of mormon the list of archaeological and historical. Reviews of dna evidence for book of mormon geography. What the dna evidence says most dna studies are unable to find markers that link modernday american indians to ancient semitic peoples, suggesting that the lehites were not the principal ancestors of modern native americans. The trend continues even mormon sources will acknowledge that theres never been any archeological evidence supporting any of the cities which the book of mormon describes. Dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence page 7. The book of mormon and lds prophets identify todays native americans as literal descendants of hebrews who traveled from jerusalem in 600. Wikipedias other article on americas settlement does not. If playback doesnt begin shortly, try restarting your device.

His level of arrogance is frustrating to ones senses. Dna evidence does not support the testimony of the lds church mormon doctrine. The book of mormon was released in march of 2003, the lds church was only beginning to wrestle with the implications of dna research that posed serious challenges to the historical validity of the book of mormon. Sep 08, 2016 on january 31, 2014, the lds church published an essay entitled book of mormon and dna studies in the gospel topics series on its official website. But religion ultimately does not rest on scientific evidence, but on mystical experiences. However, this attack ignores several key points, among which is the fact that the book of mormon states. According to the book, two of these groups originated from ancient israel. Some of you may be interested in my responses so i have posted these below. The lds church released an essay on their website titled book of mormon and dna studies. In the video rodney meldrum claims there is dna evidence that proves the book of mormon is true.

This must mean that amerindians are not descended from book of mormon peoples, and the book of mormon is false. In early 2008 rodney meldrum published a dvd titled dna evidence for book of mormon geography. Related topics including the book of mormon and dna. Nov 06, 2006 the book of mormon teaches that these israelites are the principal ancestors of modernday native americans. Evidence for asian origins and arguments against the book of mormon studies in the 1980s based on analysis of linguistic, dental, and genetic evidence resulted in the hypothesis that there were three genetic groups in the americas, the amerinds, the nadenes, and the aleuteskimos, apparently due to three separate migrations of ancestral asian. Nothing is known about the dna of book of mormon peoples, and even if their genetic profile were known, there are sound scientific reasons that it might remain undetected. The book of mormon for more than 170 years, the church of jesus christ of latterday saints has declared the book of mormon to be a scriptural and literal history. This site provides you with an overview of what the book of mormon claims from an archeological or historic viewpoint, and compares it to nonapologetic apologetic meaning speak to defend scientific and historical resources. New discoveries in dna research currently allow scientists to test this historical claim. Dna analysis has concluded that native american indians do not originate from the middle east or from israelites but rather from asia. Jan 19, 2016 polynesian dna the legend of fu sand and the book of mormon is all evidence that the populating of north american was done by ship and not on artic land masses.

Archaeological and historical evidence dna and the book. Book of mormon dna evidence is the holy grail for mormons and antimormons alike. Over 66,000 people viewed the video in the two weeks after it appeared. The book of mormon teaches that these israelites are the principal ancestors of modernday native americans. These results were a great surprise to us, said study coauthor and ancient dna specialist eske willerslev, of the university of copenhagen, denmark. Subtitled another testament of jesus christ, it recounts the story story of an israelite family who immigrated to and fully populated the american continents. The lds church claims they are and the validity of the book of mormon requires that they are. If the findings and the conclusions of the research are correct, then the entire mormon belief system is based on a lie. If the book of mormon is false, joseph smith was not a prophet. Dna evidence of the book of mormon in north america, linking native americans to the jewish population in the middle east. Forensic dna evidence interpretation is the most comprehensive resource for dna casework available today. Three great resources to debunk the dna vs book of mormon.

We can thus say with some certainty that the dna evidence has disproven the hemispheric model of book of mormon geography. Dna evidence and the book of mormon conclusive proof that. Dna samples taken from modern american indians show no connection to the dna of the peoples of the middle east. The chief claim, and the premise of the entire book, is that hebrews carried the message of the coming messiah on a voyage across the atlantic. Dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence duration. In fact, several mormon organizations have been founded in order to prove. In the book of mormon, the book of nephi tells the story of a hebrew family that flees the city of jerusalem around 600 b. Dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence youtube. A youtube clip entitled dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence is causing a stir among mormons as it has appeared on websites such as, ldsliving, prepare to serve youtube site and lds smile.

Dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence that proves the book of mormon. Archaeological and historical evidence dna and the book of. This dvd delivers on its promise, and provided empirical evidence to those who will listen. Is there dna evidence between native americans and the. Undeniable archaeological evidence of the book of mormon in north america duration. Devout mormon, daniel peterson, a professor of asian and near eastern languages at brigham young university, said. Dna evidence proves book of mormon claims about ancient.

It is important to remember that most dna apologists defending the book of mormon, do so on the assumption that lehi and his family made a small genetic impact in the americas. Now, finally, incontrovertible scientific evidence can either prove the book of mormon to be true and therefore mormonism is the true, restored gospel or the book of mormon is a fabricated tale and the claims of mormonism false. I have watched more than 20 hours of wayne may book of mormon lecture videos and conversed with both wayne may and rod meldrum in person. Three great resources to debunk the dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence video.

Thomas murphy, anthropologist, mormon scholar, and dna researcher, acknowledges the problem that the dna evidence presents for the historical accuracy of the book of mormon. The dvd is based upon a popular presentation given in a number of fireside. Book of mormon, incredible new evidence lost civilizations on north america documentary5, x dna by yates, meldrum lost civilizations of north america documentary4, deborah bolnick on haplogroup x. Thansk for a good and solid info and all the research. My wife and i had the most incredible and special experience as we met with. Rediscovering the book of mormon remnant through dna. Polynesian dna the legend of fu sand and the book of mormon is all evidence that the populating of north american was done by ship and not on artic land masses. The book of mormon documentary examines and compares genetic evidence identifying the dna fingerprints of the jewish populations and american indian populations, and presents the testimony of several dna experts in seeking to answer the question, are israelites the principal ancestors of native american indians. Jan 19, 2016 the book of mormon states that there were three transoceanic migrations by ship, lehis family, the mulekites and the jaredites.

A recently published book claims that dna evidence proves the book of mormon, one of the books of scripture used by the mormon church, incorrect. He established the new world archaeological foundation, where his role as. The lds church released an essay on their website titled book of. Nonmormon archaeologists speak on book of mormon evidence.

Further, the weakness of uncertain horses in the book of mormon is an area with a hint of a familiar trend. But being the strongest evidence so far against the book of mormon is a relative thing, akin to selecting the best smelling skunk in your local forest. Since the publication of the book of mormon in 1830, mormon archaeologists have attempted to find archaeological evidence to support it. Dna evidence and molecular genetics disprove the book of mormon. The result of this should be a picture where the uniquely mormon parts of their belief system dont.

The remainder of the video features interviews with experts in history, biology, anthropology, linguistics and archaeology. This video is a response to the original video, dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence found here. Book of mormon evidence, or its employees, and no information. Attacks on the validity of the book of mormon using dna data support for the book of mormon by mormon academics. Meldrum even claims, on the basis of no cited evidence whatever, that through. On january 31, 2014, the lds church published an essay entitled book of mormon and dna studies in the gospel topics series on its official website. Dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence general. Written by leaders in the fields of biology and statistics, the book emphasizes the interpretation of test results and provides the necessary formulae in an easily accessible manner.

May 11, 2009 a recently published book claims that dna evidence proves the book of mormon, one of the books of scripture used by the mormon church, incorrect. Dna evidence contradicts this origin story, and the lds church has had to backtrack on many of their false and racist ideas regarding native americans, their heritage, and their skin pigmentation. Two of the most prevalent claims for the book of mormon are, there is much archaeological proof to the book of mormon, and the american indians are descendants of israelites who came to america as described in the book of mormon. The book of mormon and lds prophets identify todays native. As we begin to explore mormon archaeology, it seems appropriate to introduce the fascinating history of thomas ferguson, an attorney by trade, whose true passion manifest as an amateur archaeologist who dedicated decades of his life to the search for evidence to validate the book of mormon as a historical record. Mar 26, 2016 the material below covers the geography of the book of mormon in north america. The book of mormon makes several scientific claims that can be tested.

The volume has long invited scrutiny from all branches of science. He boldly claims there is now concrete dna evidence linking native americans to jewish populations in the middle east. The book of mormon claims that the native american peoples are descended from the house of israel, but the dna evidence, according to this book, points to an asiatic origin for the american continents native people. Five compelling archeological evidences for the book of mormon. Jan 21, 2016 response to rodney meldrums incredible new dna evidence for the book of mormon a youtube clip entitled dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence is causing a stir among mormons as it has appeared on websites such as, ldsliving, prepare to serve youtube site and lds smile. In the past few years, dna studies have been used to provide what may be the strongest and most convincing evidence so far against the authenticity of the book of mormon.

The study authors believe the new study could also help resolve some longstanding puzzles on the peopling of the new world, which include genetic oddities and archaeological inconsistencies. The idea that america may have been overwhelmingly peopled by folks from northeastern asia. Genetic attacks on the book of mormon focus on the fact that amerindian dna seems closest to asian dna, and not dna from the middle east or jewish dna. All opinions, speakers and presenters represent and express their own individual opinions, and not necessarily the opinions of firm foundation, book of mormon evidence, or its employees, and no information or opinions represent the church of jesus christ of latterday saints. The conclusion states, much as critics and defenders of the book of mormon would like to use dna studies to support their views, the evidence is simply inconclusive. In this post i wanted to emphasize physical evidencesstuff you can touch, see, feel. Thousands of native americans from more than 150 tribes have been tested to determine their ancestry. Supporting evidences of the book of mormon are broadly identifiable. Testing of the ychromosome dna and mitochondrial dna are. How a mormon lawyer transformed archaeology in mexicoand. Joseph smith said in the introduction to the book i told the brethren that the book of mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone to our religion yet, the evidence shows the book of mormon is not revelation from god, but a fictitious story written by joseph smith. Hollandmaster thesis, byu, 1966, page 1 2 the introduction was modified in 2010 3 dna evidence does not support the american indian as a lamanite descendant. Anyway, its amazing to me that the book of mormon indicates that the.

The church of jesus christ of latter day saints teaches that all the native american tribes are descended from a jewish family who came to these uninhabited continents in the sixth century before christ. For these same reasons, arguments that some defenders of the book of mormon make based on. In 1955, thomas ferguson, a latter day saint and the founder of the new world archaeological foundation nwaf, with five years of funding from the church of jesus christ of latterday saints lds church, began to dig throughout mesoamerica for evidence of the veracity of the book of mormon claims. Centuries later, according to the scripture, jesus appeared to the nephites in the same region after his resurrection. Response to rodney meldrums incredible new dna evidence. The book of mormon, the founding document of the latter day saint movement and one of the four books of scripture of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints lds church, is an account of three groups of people. Dna evidence and molecular genetics disprove the book of mormon by rich deem introduction. Further, there is currently no archaeological evidence of american bison having been domesticated.

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